Can You Hear Her Now?

Season 10 Episode 5

Guest: Celina Caesar-Chavannes

What’s your secret identity?


Our true selves are often buried so deeply that they’re a secret to us. It’s hard enough to lead authentically when you don’t know who you are – but how can you motivate your team if you don’t know who they really are, either?


The key is the praxis of humanization, a way of helping your coworkers bring their authentic selves to the office. Guest Celina Caesar-Chavannes discovered this truth in her own personal journey – a journey that took her to the halls of power as a member of Canada’s parliament, where societal stereotypes continued around her unabated. But her revelation on identity soon followed, with important lessons for other leaders!

Here’s what Celina and Maureen cover:

  1. Why titles don’t protect us from society’s sundry “-isms”;
  2. The many ways we’re conditioned to NOT be our best at work (or at home); and
  3. How leaders can foster humanization, so people bring their best, unique selves to work (and you have a happier, more productive team).


Produced in partnership with the International Leadership Association:


Other episodes you’ll enjoy:

– The Power of Praise: Making People’s Performance Positive with Ben Marcovitz

– Non-Traditional Leadership for Our New Era with Nathan Eva & Nicole Ferry

– Working & Living in Joy with Pamela Larde


Celina Caesar-Chavannes

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DE&I, Global Leadership, Health Care Leadership, International Leadership Association, Leading with Care, Resilience, Women in Leadership


ILA, member of parliament, Canada, politics, women in leadership, National Brain Strategy, entrepreneur, humanization, intentionality, titles, -isms, authenticity